"We usually say that artists are sensitive to life and human nature. Do you think this is the case?"

Xu Zhiyuan wanted to guide the topic to the direction he liked, such as elites, such as human nature!

All intellectuals like to discuss these two topics.

"In a sense, this is the case, because in the current movie atmosphere, people pay more attention to movies at the box office!"

He picked up the teacup again and took a sip: "I am very glad that my aesthetic overlaps with most audiences, and I am also glad that my truest self has been hidden very deeply!"

"The truest self?"

"Actually, I am a UT film lover. I am very obsessed with plasma. I want to be unique and cult! That is the most real self-thinking. I once thought that if I was not born in China, but in the United States or Europe, you would definitely not see me filming comedy! But no, you were born in China. As a Chinese filmmaker, you should not consider these!"

"But you just said you hate those movies that tell the evil nature of human nature?"

"...It's not a contradiction. Even if I shoot UT movies, I will have an unexpected and reasonable ending. For example, I have a plan to work with Fujisun to shoot a horror movie, which is to tell a story of seven-day return in the form of comedy."

"Is it an online movie?"

"Yes, because the restrictions on online movies are not as strong as theater movies."

...

"I have discussed with Ma Dong whether intellectuals should accept or criticize the torrent of the current era. I feel that you should accept it, right?"

"Accept it! Gu Cheng once said: China is a nation that is too clear. From Lao Tzu's saying that "the world is not kind, and treats all things as straw dogs", they realized that the universe has no connection between them. Human beings are just accidental phenomena in the universe, infinitely small, and knowledge and ignorance are no different. The conclusion has long been there, and the rest is just to deal with this small part of life in the human world. You see, we understand the truth, and everything is written in the book."

"When I was in high school, I especially liked the words "Milan Kundera" living elsewhere, but as you slowly enter society, you will find that many things are different from what you expected!"

Xu Zhiyuan interrupted Xiaobai's conversation: "What you expected is different. Can you give an example?"

"For example, respect each other, respect each other. Anyone who has been to elementary school knows that this is right. However, once on the show, I felt that my bottom line was repeatedly provoked. There was no way, so I fought back and almost disappeared from the circle..."

"You're talking about Taibai?"

"Yes, that incident had a great impact on me, because before the recording, I had told the program team that I would not interview my family, especially my mother. Because when I was born, my mother went to pursue her life. I had never seen her until I was twenty-three years old, so I didn't want to mention her, but Teacher Taibai mentioned it repeatedly, even said that I had psychological disorders and asked me to forgive her..."

After pursing his lips, Xiaobai finally said the sentence that he had been holding back for several years: "Isn't this sick? Why should I ask others for my morality? I also asked the TV station to fire me and ask me to withdraw from the comedian. If it weren't for director Shi Jianing's efforts to protect me, I might not even be able to participate in the farewell competition, just because I am an insignificant person and can be at her mercy!"

"There are many such seniors in the circle, so I have to restrain myself. I believe that everyone is an idealist before they truly enter society. But our society has its own rules. At most, I can only let myself be at a higher level and respect everyone, but I have no right to ask others to do the same!"

“Do you feel the conflict?”

"Of course, comedy people are essentially sad. They permeate life and have to digest and understand what they see and hear into the movie. The darkness of this society is the collusion between officials and businessmen. I have seen too many of them. An investor once talked to me about a project. He said that as long as I signed, I could get at least 300 million yuan in income. I asked him where the money came from. He said that he had already discussed with the government of somewhere and applied for a film and television city in my name. 1 billion is actually only 400 million yuan. The additional 600 million will be divided equally!"

"A person is trapped in the darkness and will inevitably affect his thoughts, so no matter what he does, he must leave a glimmer of light in his heart. What is your glimmer?"

"It's probably my family. When I was filming the wind and waves, I called my dad every day. My dad told me that when I was thinking too much, I wrote and copied Buddhist scriptures. I did what I did!"

“Is it effective?”

"…It's okay, at least you can temporarily withdraw from those things and create with peace of mind!"

...

After lit a cigarette, the two began to suck the clouds and blew.

Xu Zhiyuan asked: "What kind of person are you? Do you evaluate yourself?"

After spitting out a mouthful of smoke rings, Xiaobai thought seriously: "Madman!"

"Madman?"

"I'm crazy. I know how to do it to welcome most people's ideas. I can tell you what kind of person the other person is by chatting with people, and in a few words, I can figure out what kind of person the other person is. Sometimes I am willing to welcome him, and sometimes I don't say it on purpose!"

"So, do you think you are a very smart person?"

"It's not smart, but I should be said to have a certain talent in understanding people's hearts!"

Xiaobai gave an example: "For example, I was writing a script about the Deer and the Cauldron recently. In it, I wrote a sentence, why should heaven and earth hold high the slogan of anti-Qing and restoring the Ming Dynasty..."

"Why?"

"Because most of the people who have read books and understand the truth have become officials in the Qing court. So if we want to fight against the Qing court, we have to use some stupid people. We must not tell the truth to those stupid people. We must use religious forms to hypnotize them so that they feel that what they do is right. Therefore, "anti-Qing and restoring Ming Dynasty" is just a slogan, which is actually the same as "Amitabha". The Qing Dynasty has always oppressed us Han people and snatched our silver and women, so we must oppose the Qing Dynasty.

“…”

Xu Zhiyuan was a little speechless. He looked at Bai Xiaofei and didn't know what to say. Then he changed the topic: "Is there any director I particularly like?"

"Zhang Yimou, I admire him very much. Let's put it this way, it's because of Zhang Yimou that I took the director's path!"

Xu Zhiyuan was surprised: "...Do you admire Zhang Yimou? I always thought you would like directors like Wang Jiawei!"

Xiaobai was a little curious: "Why did you have this view!"

"Because you are all genius directors!"

"…Wang Jiawei may be a genius director, but I am not. When I make any movie, it is impossible not to consider the audience, investors, and actors. So, I will think a lot. Zhang Yimou's movies are very admirable! And he is always at the forefront of all Chinese directors, and this is nothing to be admired!"

"Will you consider making a serious film?"

"No, even if I shoot it, I will show it in an interesting form! The audience will not like it. I will never do thankless things. This may be the biggest difference between our generation of directors and the previous generation of directors!"

"Also, I think comedy is not inferior to works with serious themes, and commercial films are not inferior to art films. It is a prejudice to deliberately belittle any type of genre! I don't understand why some directors think that movies with serious themes are naturally one class higher than ordinary commercial films. It makes no sense. Is Avatar a serious film? Is Titanic a serious film?"

After talking about this, the topic has already flown to where I don’t know what to do…

Xu Zhiyuan wrote down a bunch of things on the notebook, then looked at Bai Xiaofei: "Then that's all today. I just looked at it. You will have a notice later..."
Chapter completed!