Chapter 27 The debate between Yao and Shun
Li Shimin didn't want to hear him betrayal and said, "I'm talking about the classics of saints, what are you talking about?"
"I just feel too wronged and complain a few words." Seeing that Li Shimin was about to get angry again, Li Mu quickly pulled the words back and said, "What I said just now is definitely not a slander. I do think so. Moreover, I don't just say it, I have a basis, I have studied it."
Li Shimin couldn't help but smile and said, "When did you start studying the classics of saints? Since you said you have studied them, then I will take a look at you to help you Yao and Shun, what kind of slogans come from?"
Li Mu was calm and said, "Report to Your Majesty, I will send you Yao and Shun to the Lord. Mencius. Yi Yin cultivated the fields of Youshen and enjoyed the ways of Yao and Shun... Tang sent someone to hire him with coins and said clamorously, "Why do I use Tang to hire him with coins? Why do I want me to be in a mu? So do I like Yao and Shun?" Tang San sent him to hire him, and then he changed and said, "Where is in a mu, and then enjoyed the ways of Yao and Shun. How can I make this king the king of Yao and Shun? How can I make this people the people of Yao and Shun?" I don't know what my ministers say is right."
Li Shimin was stunned, all officials were stunned, and even Kong Yingda was stunned. It was not that Li Mu was wrong, but that Li Mu was right, which was too strange!
Li Shimin asked, "Have you read "Mencius"?"
"I have read it." Li Mu replied: "I have not only read "Mencius", but also read all the books I can find."
Li Shimin didn't believe it and said, "You are so studious?"
Li Mu smiled embarrassedly when he heard this and said, "I am not interested in learning. I have a premonition that one day I can use it. In order not to be speechless like Confucius Jijiu, I found a book to read it. "Sun Tzu: The Chapter of the Attack" says: "Know yourself and know your enemy, and you will never be defeated in a hundred battles; if you don't know your enemy, you will win and lose; if you don't know your enemy, you will never be defeated in every battle. I agree with it deeply and make some preparations early."
"I will also quote classics." Li Shimin was angry and funny when he saw Li Mu's successful appearance, and said, "Do you know you will argue with the Kong Qing family? If there was no such debate, wouldn't these books be read in vain?"
Li Mu said solemnly: "Your Majesty's words are different, and the classics of the saints are deafening. How can you read them in vain?"
"Didn't you just say that the saint's words are useless?"
Li Mu immediately denied: "I have never said it!"
Kong Yingda seized the opportunity and pointed at Li Mu and said, "Your Majesty, you see it. Zhulu Hou was talking lies with his eyes open. He just finished talking about the saint classics that the students learned, and he couldn't help Yao and Shun. Now he is going to change his words!"
Li Mu pushed Kong Yingda's hand away and said, "Kong Jijiu, it's not me who said you, your problem of referring to people's noses has to be changed. Which chapter in the Book of Rites teaches you how to refer to people's noses is etiquette? You are descendants of Confucius, so you should discipline yourself. Isn't it a joke to rely on your seniority?"
"I..." Kong Yingda pursed her lips tightly, afraid that a mouthful of blood would spew out. She glanced at Li Mu hatefully and said, "You can't deny it!"
"I did not deny that I said that sentence." Li Mu faced Li Shimin and said, "Your Majesty, what I said is not in conflict. The meaning expressed in the original text in Mencius is that Mencius believed that Yi Yinzhegen went to office because he wanted to assist Shang Tang in his intelligence and virtue to make him a virtuous king like Yao and Shun. Therefore, he had a word to be called Yao and Shun. However, Mencius had never said that if he learned the ways of Confucius and Mencius, he could be called Yao and Shun. Moreover, among the various classics I have read, there has never been a record of the words of Confucius and Mencius saying. I am not talented and knowledgeable, and I would like to ask Confucius to drink wine. Which classics you have read have had similar records?"
Kong Yingda was stunned by the question. He tried hard to recall, but he really couldn't find any records of Confucius and Mencius saying similar words.
Li Mu smiled and said, "Since Confucius could not think of it, it was gone. I can draw a conclusion that those who could learn the ways of Confucius and Mencius could help the king Yao and Shun are all self-pretentious people. Even the two saints of Confucius and Mencius dare not say that they could help the king Yao and Shun. They thought that they could do it by reading a few books, which was ridiculous?!"
When Kong Yingda heard Li Mu say this, she was immediately excited and said, "You dare to criticize the two saints of Confucius and Mencius!"
"Don't be excited to sacrifice to the wine. I did not criticize the two saints of Confucius and Mencius! What I said is true. When Confucius traveled around the countries, he could have been able to be the king Yao and Shun? Mencius lobbled between Qi and Song dynasties, he could have been able to be the king Yao and Shun?"
Kong Yingda couldn't answer, stumbled for a long time, and said stubbornly: "That's because he hasn't met a wise king!"
Li Mu smiled and said, "This is strange. Since Confucius and Mencius's ways can lead to the king Yao and Shun, why do you still choose people?"
"..." Kong Yingda couldn't answer, nor did all the officials. They didn't even think of this question. They suddenly realized that after talking to Jun Yaoshun for so many years, no one had to investigate the meaning.
Seeing that Kong Yingda was so full of words, Li Mu smiled and said, "The way of Confucius and Mencius originated from the two saints of Confucius and Mencius. The two saints themselves cannot do it to the king Yao and Shun. The descendants and disciples of the saints always say to the king Yao and Shun, saying that you are absurd, are you wronged?"
Li Mu politely said to Li Shimin, "I think what Mencius said is an expectation. What I want to express is that I will do my best to make the monarch I serve as wise as Yao and Shun. This expectation just shows that the two sages of Confucius and Mencius know that the monarch they serve is not Yao and Shun, and they cannot become Yao and Shun."
"The reason why Yao and Shun were Yao and Shun was because they were Yao and Shun. This is a talent that could not be interfered with by human power. Why did the students who studied in the Imperial College have good academic performance? This is also the reason. Some people are naturally good at being carpenters, while others are naturally good at being blacksmiths. If they insist on studying, they will naturally not be able to study well. This is the difference in talent. Looking at history, which wise monarch was taught by the so-called wise ministers? No, none of them! Even if the wise ministers can teach a good prince, if this prince is evil by nature, he will poison the world after he ascended the throne. This is an example of Emperor Yang of the previous dynasty."
"Minist thinks that virtuous ministers cannot create wise monarchs, but wise monarchs can create wise ministers. The reason why virtuous ministers are virtuous ministers is because they correct the monarch's faults or because they solve the sufferings of the people. But if the monarch is unrighteous, the monarch will kill him before he can do something. How can there be virtuous ministers?"
"This is like a humble minister, who is a commoner, who is a farmer and farms in Mayi..."
Li Shimin was originally engrossed in his ears, but when he heard this, he frowned and said, "Speak well, are you asking you to recite "The Memorial of the Master"?"
"Your Majesty forgive me. I have read too much and too complicated. I will accidentally link it. What I mean is that I was originally a young man from a small town in Mayi. I have made some contributions by chance. If Your Majesty had not known people and was good at responsibilities and asked me to serve in the Ministry of Works, I would not have the opportunity to display my talents. If my talent was not allowed to be displayed, there would not be Zhenguan plows, horseshoes, and printing techniques. Isn't this confirming my words, a wise monarch is a gift from God. Is there a wise monarch first and then a wise minister?"
This flattery brought a new level, which Li Shimin was quite helpful, and why were all officials impressed? It is easy to flatter, but like Li Mu, who is so profound in theory, can't even be able to do it.
Li Mu kept secretly glanced at Li Shimin's expression. Seeing that he was enjoying it, he struck while the iron was hot and said, "I just said that Confucius had a misunderstanding of me, so I took this opportunity to explain a few words. I hate aristocratic families, but I want to make it clear that I only hate some of them. I hate people like Cui Yuyan, but I respect people like Wang Shizhong. The difference between them is something I only understand after reading "Records of the Grand Historian".
"You also read "Records of the Grand Historian"?"
Li Mudao: "I have read that I found the source of the 'sage' in "Records of the Grand Historian". In the ancient tribal era, 'sage' was a person with special abilities in the tribe. It may be a warrior, a wizard, a fisherman, or a hunter. They are called 'sage' because they are outstanding and the people need to rely on their abilities and therefore respect them."
"In the pre-Qin era, in order to allow their descendants to enjoy the same status as them, these 'sages' developed selfishness and taught their knowledge and abilities only to their descendants or close people, thus creating 'gentry'."
"The power of the gentry gradually accumulated, surpassed the common people and became literati. The gentry was awarded by the emperor and became ministers. The dynasties formed again between the changes of dynasties."
"Just like the ancient 's scholars' were respected by the people, the gentry also led the people to survive and reproduce, and they deserve respect. However, some of them were born in the family of aristocratic families and were naturally a member of the gentry. They were of no inch to the country, the country, and the people, but they also enjoyed the privileges like those gentry who had made meritorious. People like Cui Yuyan were just borers among the gentry, and I think they were not worthy of respect."
"But if a truly talented gentry like Wang Shizhong is still worthy of respect."
Li Shimin thought about Li Mu's words carefully and found them to be somewhat reasonable. He thought about it and asked, "In your opinion, how should students teach to become useful talents?"
"I don't know, because I have never taught students. But I know that if I teach like this now, I will definitely not teach talents. Your Majesty, please look at the civil and military officials in the court. Which one was taught by a teacher like Confucius Jijiu? I only know one but not the other. The sage classics can only be read according to the script. What is the use of such talents?"
Kong Yingda couldn't help it anymore and said, "Marquis Zhulu, don't be arrogant because of your talent. Do you say this to the world and don't take the students in the world seriously?"
Li Mu turned his head to look at Kong Yingda and said, "If you can enter my eyes, it will naturally enter my eyes. If you can't enter my eyes, can you still force it into it?" As he was speaking, Li Mu suddenly looked at the palace beam above Kong Yingda's head and said, "Oh? It's strange, Kong Jijiu, I can hear your voice, but I can't see where you are? Kong Jijiu, where are you?"
Chapter completed!