After three rounds of drinking, everyone started talking about the topics without so much concern, so they talked much easier.

Wang Yan said: "When I was in Kaifeng Prefecture, Jishuai was only hundreds of soldiers and full of passion. At that time, in my eyes, Jishuai was an ambitious young man. How could he have thought that he would have a 100,000 army in a few years and become a great general? It is really hard to say about the things in the world."

Wang Xiaoli said: "Not only Zicai could not have thought of it, I also thought of it. At that time, the Jin army was like a divine weapon and a general, almost unparalleled, and anyone would be desperate. But in despair, some surrendered, some gave up, and some rose up in despair. Trying hundreds of methods and enduring thousands of hardships. As long as you truly serve the country and the people and gain the trust of the people, you will always find a way to save the country. A few years have passed, and thinking about the past is really touching!"

Cao Zhiyan said: "At that time, we followed the general Jie, how could we dare to think about today. The rebel army was serving the king. We were so proud that we only wanted to serve the country with death. Who knew that a few years later, Kaifeng Prefecture was destroyed and the two saints were hunting north, and there was no force in the world that could resist the Jin people. If Marshal Zong had not stayed in the capital and soothed people's hearts, he would not know what it would be like. Unfortunately, Marshal served the country with death and did not live to this day."

Wang Xiaoli nodded and said in a deep voice: "It's not enough to just serve the country. There are ways to serve the country. Otherwise, there would be only a few more dead bones. We went south to Xiangyang at that time, which was really lucky. There were no powerful forces around us, allowing us to easily occupy many places. When the riots came, we had already had an army. After a few years, we finally had today."

Zong Ze claimed to have a million troops in Kaifeng Prefecture, but most of them were not allowed to win the Jin army in a row. At that time, the direction of the Jin army was not Kaifeng Prefecture, and Zong Ze dealt with only two or three thousand Jin troops. Facing two or three thousand enemies, he claimed to have a million troops, and this world was really magical.

But at that time, thousands of Jin troops were really arrogant. No matter how many people the Song Dynasty army had, they could not form a joint force. The Jin army could rush directly to the commander, and it was not a strange thing for two or three Jin troops to defeat the 100,000 Song troops. Now, I think about it, it really changed.

Zong Ze's role was to occupy the capital during the most difficult time of the Song Dynasty, giving the people of the world the confidence to persevere. Moreover, the many forces in Kaifeng Prefecture, under the comfort of Zong Ze, were mostly able to serve the country. If the Song Dynasty had the means of Wang Xiaohunting at that time, these forces might not have been able to become real troops. Unfortunately, once Zong Ze left, the power scattered, and these people became thieves that would have caused trouble in the world.

During the Jianyan period, except for Shaanxi, most parts of the Song Dynasty were in a vacuum. The people had no organization and the government had no army. As long as they were brave enough, they could take up a team of hundreds of people. It was also at this time that Wang Xiaoli had his own territory.

Wang Yan said: "When Jianyan was the time, how many forces in the world were? How many people could persist until today? Like Li Cheng, Kong Yanzhou, Zhang Yong and others, the court had to pacify or suppress them in the past two years. Some of them had joined Liu Yu, and some became generals of the court. Only those who truly occupied the territory and became the commander of one side."

Wang Xiaoli said: "I thought about this question for a long time, and it was not until this time when I went north to Luoyang that I understood it. The Jin army was good at fighting hard, and they did not care about casualties when fighting. Many troops were scattered by the Jin army as soon as they were scattered. Since I was in Xiangyang, I have fought with the Jin army many times, and I have never been scattered by the Jin army. Why? After all, the organization of the army is different. My army has been stronger than the organization of the Jin army since its establishment. How could they scatter?"

Wang Yan nodded: "Over the years, the generals under Jie Shuai said the most frequently, that the army is an organized violent group, and the core is the organization. I often hear this sentence, and my ears are almost calloused. But if you understand it carefully, it is really like this. Without organization, the army is just a mess. How can you fight against the Jin army? With organization, the same people have completely different combat powers."

Wang Xiaoli said: "I gradually realized the meaning of this sentence. Organization is like weaving cloth, crisscrossing and when weaving well, the silk thread will become good cloth. If we don't weaving well, it will be twisted and erratic. We who command the army must be able to organize the army. To organize, we must have qualified grassroots generals. The two levels of commander and Dutou are particularly important. If they do well, the generals will save a lot of effort. In the first place, I did not clearly understand the significance of the military academy. After these years, I truly understood the benefits of doing this."

Wang Yan smiled and said, "I am in Jinzhou and I can see the best of my understanding of Jieshuai's army. Since last year, Jieshuai's army has gradually changed and has begun to have its own style and is no longer like before. Now, fighting against the Jin army has completely gained the upper hand."

Wang Xiaoli nodded and raised wine to drink with everyone.

Wang Xiaoli is just an ordinary person. He does not know what to do from the beginning. Instead, he tests little by little, experiments little by little, and improves little by little. He keeps improving this and has been improving for several years.

This is how the world is. If you feel that you know the answer from the beginning, most of the answer is wrong. The real answer is to be down-to-earth, seek truth from facts, and find it patiently.

In this era, how to save China? If you open a history book and think that Britain's history is good, you can learn from it. If France's history is good, you can also learn from it. If Germany's history is good, you can also learn from it. Even if you think that Germany's history is good, you can also learn from it. Even if you think that you have found the answer, then you have not found the answer.

A country is backward in an era and learns from foreign countries, not like this. It is not like this. It is not like seeing others do that, but I do that too. It is certain that it is not possible. Instead, we must analyze the history of our country, analyze the reality of our country, combine the experience of others, find out where the problem is and how to correct it. We must understand what purpose we want to achieve and how to achieve such a goal.

Wang Ruohai said: "I first arrived in Dengzhou at that time, but I actually didn't like Jishuai's approach. Later, the situation forced me to follow Jishuai. After a long time, I realized that many of Jishuai's approaches seemed a bit absurd, but they were effective. Today, the only thing left is admiration for Jishuai!"

Wang Xiaoli looked at everyone and said, "What do you admire? Actually, I don't know what to do for many things. But for me, I don't know, but I don't know, instead of pretending to know. What should I do? Try it little by little, summarize it little by little, and try to do it better and better. As we have more experience, we will gradually know what we didn't know before. To try it, summarize experience, learn lessons, and don't trust others easily. These words are simple and not easy to do."

Wang Ruohai nodded. Yes, things in the world are not that complicated. If you don’t know, just learn, try, and make some changes. Instead, if you don’t know, stand up and say I know. To do this and that, you must mess things up.
Chapter completed!