Chapter 62 The duel of the forced king
"Hey, hey, is it Mr. Feng? The line is being debugged here. Our General Manager will be online later. Please wait for a long time."
In the conference call, a series of sweet and polite female voices came out first, but they always had a bit of formulaic taste and lacked the warmth and warmth of human feelings.
"Ali's people are so arrogant. They have obviously conducted research and think that we may have consulting value, but they have sent Mr. Ma to chat with us in person." Snicker curled her lips, leaned against Feng Jianxiong, bit her ear and complained in a low voice. She hadn't pressed the speech button yet, so she didn't have to worry about hearing it on the other side.
The conference call in 2006 was generally completed by special instruments.
Video conferencing is even more troublesome. Due to today's network hardware, the picture quality is almost the same as the newly born YY video chat room. If there is no dedicated line or LAN, the frame rate is very stuttering. So nowadays, many fun-loving firms use videos when talking about things, while genuine large companies would rather not see people and only use telephone conferences.
Faced with Sniker's complaints, Feng Jianxiong, who was broad-minded, did not care at all.
He wiped Sniko's hand off his shoulder, pressed the answer button, and said casually: "You're welcome, we can do it anytime."
"Thank you Mr. Feng for your understanding." The sweet female voice said coldly and politely.
After a while, a man in his 30s who spoke in a bit of Mandarin was changed into a voice: "I am Wei Zhe."
Very simple, just four words.
Feng Jianxiong knew that people with status all spoke like this, so he interrupted without hesitation and took the conversation: "Happy, Mr. Wei. I am very happy to serve your company. Let me introduce it first. Today, I will provide you with consultation with my assistant Miss Snicker."
When you encounter someone who introduces himself and likes to report titles, you must not interrupt the other party and say that you have long reluctance when you are polite. You must let the other party finish the title. Because anyone who likes to report titles is often not very confident and needs a title to strengthen his halo.
For those who say names directly and don’t talk nonsense, they must pause for more than a second after the other party says the name, and then say goodbye to them, and then introduce our participants simply and neatly.
These are all the experience of attracting clients accumulated by Feng Jianxiong in his past ten years of lawyers. He will say whatever type of person he meets.
It seemed that he was quite satisfied with Feng Jianxiong's straightforward attitude. Wei Zhe said bluntly: "Mr. Feng, congratulations first, you have won the project and also achieved good results - on that TV program last weekend, you provided some outlook for our company. Jack was very concerned about it and dragged me and Lao Cai to investigate and discuss for several days."
Feng Jianxiong responded casually: "Is that so? I'm so sorry. I was completely worried and imaginative at the time. I didn't expect that I would cause you trouble if I said casually - let's do it. In order to show our sincerity, I can give you a discount on the consultation fee for today's conference call, just give it a symbolic point."
"Haha, I'm very confident." Wei Zhe's tone seemed a little sneering, and there seemed to be other people whispering to him. Listening to the atmosphere, I probably thought that Feng Jianxiong was talking about money as soon as he spoke.
There are probably hundreds of law firms and business consulting companies that are connected to for large companies like Alibaba every year. Even if the law firm with high charging standards is facing such companies, in order to prove their strength and attract customers, they will most likely not directly discuss money when they first contact them (unless it is a specific litigation business).
Under the operating model of many business consulting companies, it is good to be able to set the contract price before formally reporting the plan. As for the payment - in the business consulting industry, one-third of the project funds cannot be returned, or cannot be returned in full, which is almost an industry practice.
For a law firm that handles litigation business, the repayment rate may be better, but it also has to do with the strength of the court's judgment execution - even if you help the client win the lawsuit, but if the defendant is a deadbeat, the judgment is not strong during the execution stage. Then, if the client does not get the money, it is normal for the law firm to default on the lawyer's fees during the same period.
With so many weak colleagues as foils, Feng Jianxiong talks about money so calmly, which makes people feel arrogant. You know, Ali's party originally made an appointment this afternoon, and was just a chat. He wanted to confirm whether the other party's vision was valuable and he had no intention of giving money.
In Wei Zhe's opinion, he and big names like Lao Cai are willing to spend time to identify Feng Jianxiong's performance, which is already a favorable face.
Fortunately, no one with status has any free time to make concessions, so after "hehe" it was finished, I quickly got to the point:
"When we heard Mr. Feng's meaning that day, we understood it correctly. We should think that our data service company should focus on the concept of 'big data' in the next few years? To analyze and portray customer behavior?"
After hearing this question, Snicker couldn't help but feel nervous. She had never contacted such high-end customers so far. Moreover, Wei Zhe was obviously an executive from the academy and had worked in large multinational companies. His qualifications and way of speaking were enough to put pressure on Snicker, who had not yet washed away his rustic spirit.
However, today it was Feng Jianxiong who answered that the girl still had time to be trained to study.
"I said that those words are a temporary measure. Your company will not be really told by me. I think this thing can be operated, right? I calmed down and thought that those concepts are still too advanced, or in other words, this problem can be viewed in two ways. Big data should be accumulated from now on. As long as you take into account the cost, classify it in advance, and fold the data, you will not suffer any losses in the future.
However, the customer behavioral habits are like these, and even the 'seed credit' I talked about that day, I think it is obviously not feasible to enter product-level research and development at the moment."
Feng Jianxiong's words were both hard and soft, with both choice and deed, and his weight was very stable. The layman might not think that there was anything, but Wei Zhe and other senior executives were thinking about these questions every day. After chewing it for a while, they felt that the other party was at least a knowledgeable person.
In the past few days, the investigation and understanding of Feng Jianxiong has been confirmed.
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"It seems that this guy is not a rash person at least, and he also knows how to move forward and backward. If he gave some radical research and development suggestions just now, I would think this guy is worthless to talk about."
While the conference call was off during the intermission, a Mediterranean man in his forties was chatting casually with Wei Zhe, who was dressed in high-end urban gold collar and was shiny with hair spray.
This middle-aged bald man has a very decent position in Ali Group. Thanks to his veteran qualifications, he naturally has more say than Wei Zhe, the vice president of the airborne franchise. This is also due to the employing route of Boss Alima. In a company like Ali, the executives who have been poached by multinational giants made mistakes, which was all wrong. The eighteen Arhats made mistakes by their own people, which was just a mistake in the method.
This middle-aged man is naturally Cai Chongxin. Ali's CFO is also the bridge between Ali's group and investors. In the millennium, it was Cai Chongxin who helped Ma Feng bring about the relationship between SoftBank Sun Zhengyi.
According to his affairs, such a teleconference of avant-garde business information was usually not favored by the audience. However, the strategy Feng Jianxiong talked about that day had something to do with financial credit, so Boss Ma said hello and asked him to come and listen to it and make a decision.
Feng Jianxiong's mature and steadfast position just now obviously changed Lao Cai's initial contempt and indifferentness.
"joe, do you think that kid's boastful talk is a bit valuable?" Wei Zhe obviously attached great importance to Cai Chongxin's opinions and asked for advice very humbly. He just jumped from a multinational company this year, and his foundation is unstable. Although he is the title of vice president, he is still in a cautious state of doing things.
Cai Chongxin nodded peacefully: "At least it's worth listening to it, let's see his subsequent analysis. In addition, don't ask me about the technical feasibility."
"Of course." Wei Zhe agreed.
Soon, they called in two director-level leaders of the R&D department, both of whom were data experts and participated in subsequent meetings.
The intermission soon ended, and Feng Jianxiong's voice came over from the other end. After a close cross-examination, including the torture of the technical director on Ali's side, the topic focused on several main contradictions.
"Mr. Feng, you just said that in the next three or four years, the investment in technology research and development of ‘user behavior portraits’ can be heavy, but the accumulation of big data should be ‘something to invest as much as possible when the cost does not significantly increase.’ What is the basis for this judgment? We have also had bricks who have slightly dabbled in ‘deep-mind’ type artificial intelligence. In their opinion, data, algorithm programs and processing capabilities are almost equally important.”
The person who raised this question was the head of a technical department in Ali. Of course, the motivation for his question was obviously authorized by Wei Zhe and Cai Chongxin. He just used technical translation to modify it.
"Engineer's opinion." On the other end of the conference call, Feng Jianxiong's tone was slightly disdainful but concealed it.
"From the perspective of technological implementation, data, algorithms and processing capabilities are obviously of great importance. But from the perspective of competitive barriers, it is obvious that data is more likely to form monopoly barriers - in the next few years, once you make a user credit profile and let your peers see the future, everything else is easy to make up for, and only data is difficult to make up for."
Feng Jianxiong's words were seven or eight years later, that is, after 2012 to 2013, any "entrepreneurship mentor" could be said. After all, people of that era were instilled with the three views that "algorithm advantages will be easily constructed quickly with the spread of technology, but big data is easily monopolized by platform giants."
Even if you only look at these issues from the perspective of 2009 and 2010, no matter what passers-by understand, at least the top IT giants with vision can understand this.
But unfortunately, it is only 2006 now.
Feng Jianxiong casually said some insights that had been ahead of him for more than ten years, and combined with his strict and inappropriate principles of the cause, he seemed neither a charlatan nor a slight sensation.
"Does what he said make sense?"
A familiar and slight voice came from behind everyone, and even Wei Zhe stood up quickly. Cai Chongxin also turned around and nodded in greeting.
Sure enough, the person who came was an ugly man with a skeleton, Ma Feng, chairman of the board of directors of Ali Group.
He had just finished an internal meeting and heard the secretary mention the situation here, so he took advantage of the tea time to come over and pretend to be a few words.
"A young man is quite pragmatic, probably not a hot-tempered person." Cai Chongxin turned sideways and asked Ma Feng to sit down, commenting pertinently.
Ma Feng nodded with a smile: "Then you continue, I'll listen to it-I'll have a fifteen-minute break. If you ask him to focus on his expectations for the 'establishing online credit data', he asked him what he thought this thing could be realized within a few years."
Wei Zhe carefully said in his tone and lowered his voice and advised: "Jack? Is this too inexpensive? We don't know how long the research and development cycle will take for the technical outlook. If the other party falsely reports a time and then fabricates a bunch of decent arguments, we cannot refute him. To verify whether his statement is right, we may have to wait for historical tests."
"We don't know what we think?" Ma Feng asked Wei Zhe in a fury, then turned to a technical person in charge beside him, "Xiao Chen, do you think the thing mentioned that day can be realized within a few years of technical results?"
Xiao Chen was obviously very nervous and said rudely: "Mr. Ma, this is hard to say. According to his idea, building a folding architecture of big data will be at least two or three years of R&D cycle, and it will also take commercial verification. If you calculate one or two years of maturity and running-in, that will happen after 2010 and 11 years.
Then I use a special credit algorithm, make software, and do applications. In less than seven or eight years, that is, from 2013 to 2014, I can't see the possibility of commercialization of this thing - don't be too slow, even in Silicon Valley, a feasible architecture in a laboratory, and commercial application, it will take at least five to seven years of incubation period. Therefore, the angel investors in Silicon Valley generally support the exit period of more than seven years, which is much more patient than domestic VCs.
However, this number does not take into account the additional unpredictable risks and even changes in external situations. In fact, if it is fast, it is possible after 2012 or slow, and there are too many variables."
However, Ma Feng's reaction was beyond everyone's expectations.
He didn't think it was slow.
"You mean, as long as we are willing to invest and have the resources, we can realize the "social credit data system" described by Feng Jianxiong at the slowest time in 2015? I don't think it's so fast." He said lightly, "Let's do it, just talk to him about this issue. If he also said that it can be realized before 2015, it would be just a fool."
Everyone present was shocked and puzzled, unable to understand why the boss suddenly wanted to make a move, but no one wanted to disobey him.
The broadcast button of the conference caller was pressed again, and the people on Ali, as Mr. Ma thought, raised the question he had just planned.
"Mr. Feng, please look forward to it now. If we Aliken invest and the external technical environment is also in line with each other, how many years do you think we can realize the 'social credit assessment big data system' you mentioned on TV?"
"To realize what I said? Technically, it is certainly OK within ten years. But this matter cannot be determined by technology. If all factors are combined, I think it may not be fully realized within 15 years."
Chapter completed!